{"id":1479,"date":"2016-10-10T18:06:39","date_gmt":"2016-10-10T18:06:39","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/orthodoxaustralia.org\/?p=8066"},"modified":"2016-10-10T18:06:39","modified_gmt":"2016-10-10T18:06:39","slug":"302-dec-720-1980-st-ambrose-of-milan","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/orthodoxaustralia.org\/?p=1479","title":{"rendered":"302.  Dec. 7\/20, 1980 St. Ambrose of Milan"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>St. Herman of Alaska Brotherhood<br \/>\nPlatina, California 96076<\/p>\n<p>Mrs. Irina Hay<br \/>\nRussian Research Center<br \/>\nHarvard University<br \/>\n1737 Cambridge, Mass. 02138<\/p>\n<p>Dear Mrs. Hay,<\/p>\n<p>May the blessing of the Lord be with you!<\/p>\n<p>Thank you for your \u201copen letter\u201d of November 3 and your personal letter of November 4. I assure you that I found no reason for offense in either of them, and for me they are only the occasion for a friendly discussion of the teaching (at least one aspect of it) and the importance of two great hierarchs and theologians of 19th-century Russia\u2014Theophan the Recluse and Ignatius Brianchaninov.<\/p>\n<p>My comment on page 3 of The Soul After Death that Bishop Theophan was perhaps the \u201conly rival\u201d to Bishop Ignatius as a defender of Orthodoxy against modern errors was not meant to imply in any way that Bishop Theophan was inferior as a theologian or a patristic scholar; I merely had Bishop Ignatius as the center of my attention there, and Bishop Theophan thereby looks a little \u201csmaller\u201d in that context, which of course he was not in reality. In saying, in the same place, that Bishop Theophans defense of Orthodoxy was on a less \u201csophisticated\u201d level than Bishop Ignatius\u2019, I was also not implying any inferiority to Bishop Theophan, but only expressing what I believe to be the case: that Bishop Ignatius in general paid more attention to Western views and to combatting them in detail, whereas Bishop Theophan emphasizes more single-mindedly the handing down of the Orthodox tradition and only incidentally touched on the Western errors regarding it. I had in mind, for example, the contrast between Bishop Ignatius\u2019 long defense and explanation of the toll-houses (which I cite on pp. 73ff of The Soul After Death), and Bishop Theophans laconic statement (the only one I know of where he criticized the Western skepticism with regard to this teaching) that \u201cno matter how absurd the idea of the toll-houses may seem to our \u2018wise men,\u2019 they will not escape passing through them\u201d (Psalm 118, p. 289). By speaking of the \u201csophisticated\u201d level on which Bishop Ignatius wrote, I only meant to say that he was more concerned than Bishop Theophan to argue with the Western views on their own ground, while Bishop Theophan seemed more inclined to dismiss the Western views without much discussion. But perhaps this was not true in all cases.<\/p>\n<p>Thus, I think that on the relative greatness of these two hierarchs there is no real disagreement between us. I certainly acknowledge Bishop Theophans greatness as a theologian and a patristic scholar, and my only reason for emphasizing Bishop Ignatius in The Soul After Death is that it was he and not Bishop Theophan who spoke in such detail against the Western errors with regard to the Orthodox teaching on life after death. I very much welcome your research on Bishop Theophan, whom I greatly respect and admire, and who unfortunately is not as appreciated as he should be today owing to the inclination of some people nowadays to view him rather naively as \u201cscholastic\u201d just because he translated some Western books or perhaps used some Western theological phrases.<\/p>\n<p>Regarding the specific point of Bishop Theophans disagreement with Bishop Ignatius\u2019 teaching: You are correct in the supposition expressed in your private letter to me that when I wrote of this disagreement on page 36 of The Soul After Death I had not read Bishop Theophans booklet Soul and Angel, which criticizes Bishop Ignatius\u2019 teaching, and that my comments there were indeed based solely on Fr. Florovsky\u2019s small reference to it. Having since been able to obtain and read Bishop Theophans booklet, I see that my comments there are not precise. You are, of course, correct that there was no \u201cdispute\u201d between the two, but only Bishop Theophans disagreement, expressed after the death of Bishop Ignatius. The point of disagreement was also not expressed precisely (as I will discuss below). The main question you raise, however, is whether indeed this disagreement was a \u201cminor\u201d one, as I have stated; this question I would like to address here briefly.<\/p>\n<p>Perhaps this question is only a semantic one, based on a difference of perspective in viewing the disagreement between these two theologians. Anyone reading Bishop Theophans Soul and Angel, with its 200 (albeit small) pages criticizing Bishop Ignatius\u2019 teaching, and seeing the emphasis with which Bishop Theophan accused what he regarded as Bishop Ignatius\u2019 error, might be inclined to call the disagreement a \u201cmajor\u201d one. But in looking at the whole context of Bishop Ignatius\u2019 teaching on life after death, I still cannot help seeing this disagreement as a \u201cminor\u201d one, for the following reasons:<\/p>\n<p>1. Bishop Theophan, in the whole course of his criticism in Soul and Angel, accuses only one and the same error (or supposed error) of Bishop Ignatius: the idea that the soul and angels are bodily and only bodily in nature. Bishop Theophan himself writes: \u201cIf the new teaching had only said that angels have bodies, one would not have needed to argue with it; for in this case the chief, dominating side in angels would still be a rationally free spirit. But when it is said that an angel is a body, one must deny in it rational freedom and consciousness; for these qualities cannot belong to a body\u201d {Soul and Angel, Second Edition, Moscow, 1902, p. 103). If Bishop Ignatius had indeed held such an opinion, with all the emphasis and consequences which Bishop Theophan ascribes to it, it would surely have been a serious error on his part. But even so, it would not have directly affected the rest of his teaching on life after death: angels and souls would still act in the same way and in the same \u201cplaces\u201d whether they are bodies or have bodies (or even assume bodies, as Bishop Theophan himself seems more inclined to believe). Bishop Theophans criticism, thus, does not at all affect the whole system of Bishop Ignatius\u2019 teaching, but only one technical aspect of it. And even here their agreement is greater than their disagreement: both agree that there is a bodily aspect to the activities of angels, whether in this world or in the other world, and that therefore the accounts of their activities in the Lives of Saints and other Orthodox sources are to be accepted as true accounts and not as \u201cmetaphors\u201d or \u201cfantasies,\u201d as Western critics believe. Therefore, in the whole context of Bishop Ignatius\u2019 (and Bishop Theophan\u2019s) teaching on life after death, I cannot but see this disagreement as \u201cminor.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>2. I seriously question whether Bishop Ignatius actually taught the teaching which Bishop Theophan ascribes to him; certainly, at any rate, he did not place on it the emphasis or draw the consequences from it which Bishop Theophan was most concerned to oppose. Thus, in the quotation from Bishop Theophan above, where he states that \u201cwhen it is said that an angel is a body, one must deny in it rational freedom and consciousness\u201d\u2014it is clear that Bishop Theophan is only drawing the logical conclusion from what he thinks Bishop Ignatius believes, but nowhere can he find a quotation from Bishop Ignatius himself that he actually believes angels to be deprived of rational freedom and consciousness; certainly Bishop Ignatius did not believe this. In my own reading of Bishop Ignatius\u2019 \u201cHomily on Death\u201d I did not find such a teaching. I have not read his \u201cSupplement\u201d to this work, but I am sure that there also there will not be found the whole emphasis and consequences of the teaching which Bishop Theophan accuses. Without entering into the full details of the disagreement between them (which might be a major study in itself and would have, I think, no particular value for Orthodox theology or the Orthodox teaching on life after death), I suspect that the error on Bishop Ignatius\u2019 part was not in holding the precise teaching which Bishop Theophan criticizes, but (perhaps) in overemphasizing the bodily side of the angelic nature and activity (rather easy to do in combatting the overly \u201cspiritual\u201d emphasis of Western teachers to the extent that he may sometimes have seemed to be saying that angels (and souls) are bodies rather than (as I think he actually meant to say) that angels and souls have (ethereal) bodies, or that a bodily aspect is part of their nature. As Bishop Theophan has said, there would be no argument between them if such was indeed his teaching, for he regards this (for example, in Soul and Angel, p. 139) as a permissible opinion on this complex question which has not been dogmatically defined by the Church.<\/p>\n<p>All the more, then, if Bishop Theophan was even slightly mistaken as to the emphasis of Bishop Ignatius\u2019 teaching, should this disagreement be regarded as \u201cminor,\u201d in my opinion.<\/p>\n<p>3. Bishop Theophan was once specifically asked whether in the teaching of Bishop Ignatius he had found any other error, apart from the supposed teaching of the \u201cmateriality\u201d of the soul. He replied: \u201cNo. In Bishop Ignatius there is only this error\u2014his opinion on the nature of the soul and angels, that they are material. In all that I have read in his books, I have noticed nothing un-Ortho- dox. What I have read is good\u201d (Letter of Dec. 15, 1893, in The Russian Monk, Pochaev Monastery, No, 17, Sept., 1912). Thus, in the context of the whole Orthodoxy teaching of Bishops Ignatius and Theophan, this disagreement is truly a \u201cminor\u201d one.<\/p>\n<p>Now to pass to a final point, concerning the aerial toll-houses encountered by the soul after death. In your open letter you quote a letter of Bishop Theophan in which he states that life after death \u201cis a land closed to us. What happens there is not defined with precision&#8230;. As to what shall be there\u2014we shall see when we get there.\u201d From this, as well as from the fact that Bishop Theophan does not mention the toll-houses often in his writings, you conclude that \u201cthe teaching as such, in all of its symbolism, was&#8230;at most peripheral to his thinking,\u201d and you think I am mistaken at least in my emphasis that Bishop Theophan was a staunch defender of the Orthodox teaching of the toll-houses. To this I would reply with several points:<\/p>\n<p>1. I also can recall only these two direct references in the writings of Bishop Theophan to the teaching of the toll-houses. However, these two references are sufficient to show that he did indeed hold this teaching and taught it to others, and that he was quite critical, even scornful, of those who denied it (\u201cNo matter how absurd the idea of the toll-houses may seem to our wise men,\u201d they will not escape passing through them\u201d).<\/p>\n<p>2. The fact that in some of his letters when the subject of life after death is touched on, he does not mention the toll-houses, does not seem to me a necessary indication that this subject is \u201cperipheral\u201d to his teaching, but only that he speaks in each case to the need of his listener, and some people do not need (or are unable) to hear of the toll-houses. I have found this same thing in my own experience as a priest: With those who are ready for it, the teaching of the toll-houses is a powerful incentive to repentance and a life lived in the fear of God; but there are those for whom the teaching would be so frightening that I would not even speak of it to them until they were better prepared to accept it. A priest sometimes encounters dying people so little prepared for the other world that it would be pointless to speak to them even of hell, let alone the toll-houses, for fear of removing in them the little hope and awareness they might have of the Kingdom of Heaven; but this does not mean that hell has no part in the teaching of such a priest, or that he would not defend its reality decisively if it were attacked. Especially in our \u201cenlightened\u201d 20th century, many Orthodox Christians are so immature spiritually, or have been so misled by modern ideas, that they are simply incapable of accepting the idea of encounters with demons after death. Any Orthodox priest in his pastoral approach to such people must, of course, condescend to their weakness and give them the \u201cbaby food\u201d they require until they are more prepared to accept the strong food of some of the Orthodox ascetical texts; but the Orthodox teaching on the toll-houses, handed down from the early Christian centuries, remains always the same and cannot be denied no matter how many people are incapable of understanding it.<\/p>\n<p>3. Moreover, in actual fact the teaching of the toll-houses does appear in other works of Bishop Theophan\u2014in his translations if not in his original works. There are numerous references to this teaching in his five-volume translation of the Philokalia, several of which I have cited in the text of The Soul After Death (pp. 80-81, 258-9, 262). In Unseen Warfare also (Part Two, ch. 9), there is an exposition of the Orthodox teaching on the \u201cexamination by the prince of this age\u201d given to everyone on his departure from the body; the word \u201ctoll-houses\u201d does not appear there, but the text says clearly that \u201cthe most decisive battle awaits us in the hour of death,\u201d and it is obvious that the reality is the same as that which Bishop Ignatius is so concerned to defend, and which in other places Bishop Theophan does call by the name of \u201ctoll-houses.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>4. The text of Bishop Theophans Soul and Angel contains not one word critical of Bishop Ignatius\u2019 teaching on the toll-houses. Now, in Bishop Ignatius\u2019 \u201cHomily on Death\u201d he states unequivocally that \u201cthe teaching of the toll-houses is the teaching of the Church\u201d (Vol III of his Works, p. 138), and he goes on to justify this statement in great detail. And Bishop Theophan, in his criticism of Bishop Ignatius\u2019 teaching, states that \u201cin the present article the new teaching of the above-mentioned brochures (\u201cHomily on Death\u201d and the \u201cSupplement\u201d to it) is examined in full detail, without leaving uncensured a single thought in them which should be censured\u201d {Soul and Angel, p. 4). It is quite clear, then, since Bishop Theophan found nothing whatever to censure in Bishop Ignatius\u2019 ideas on the toll-houses, that he is in full agreement with Bishop Ignatius that \u201cthe teaching of the toll-houses is the teaching of the Church.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>5. In the very text of Soul and Angel, Bishop Theophan sets forth the conditions of the soul after its departure from the body in terms identical to those of Bishop Ignatius\u2019 exposition. These are precisely the conditions required for the occurrence of the encounter of the soul with demons at the toll-houses, so this quote, even though it does not directly mention the toll-houses, may be taken as an indication of Bishop Theophans agreement with Bishop Ignatius on the nature of after-death reality, his sole difference with Bishop Ignatius being on the question whether the nature of angels is only body (which, as I stated above, I do not believe Bishop Ignatius actually taught). Here is the quote from Bishop Theophan:<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThe soul, after its departure from the body, enters into the realm of spirits where both it and the spirits are active in the same forms as are visible on earth among men: they see each other, they speak, travel, argue, act. The difference is only that there the realm is an ethereal one of subtle matter, and in them therefore everything is subtly material and ethereal. What is the direct conclusion from this? That in the world of spirits the outward form of being and of mutual relations is the same as among men on earth. But this fact does not speak of the bodiliness of the nature of angels, or say that their essence is only body\u201d (Soul and Angel, pp. 88-89).<\/p>\n<p>6. You do not disagree with me on the main point: that Bishop Theophan, like Bishop Ignatius, did hold the Orthodox teaching of the toll-houses; your only disagreement with me is on the emphasis the two teachers placed on it (Bishop Ignatius spoke of it more, Bishop Theophan less). I think there is a very simple explanation for this seeming difference of emphasis: It was Bishop Ignatius who felt it necessary to write a whole treatise on the subject of life after death, where the subject of the toll-houses, being an important part of the Orthodox teaching, of necessity occupies a conspicuous place; while Bishop Theophan, not having written such a treatise, mentions this subject only in passing. I would imagine (without looking through all his works to verify it) that in his other writings Bishop Ignatius mentions the toll-houses no more often than Bishop Theophan. The few references in Bishop Theophans writings, however, do indicated that he held the teaching as firmly as Bishop Ignatius. The difference between them, then, I would say, is not in what they believed or even in the force with which they expressed their belief, but in the point I mentioned at the beginning of this letter: that Bishop Ignatius was more concerned than Bishop Theophan to do close battle with the rationalistic views of the West, while Bishop Theophan handed down the Orthodox tradition with less attention to fighting specific Western errors regarding it.<\/p>\n<p>In view of all this, I believe that my statement in the preface of The Soul After Death, that Bishop Theophan \u201ctaught the same teaching\u201d as Bishop Ignatius, is justified: in view of the whole Orthodox teaching on life after death which they had in common, the difference between them on the one point of the \u201cbodiliness\u201d of the nature of the soul and angels (a difference caused, I believe, more by the apparent overemphasis of Bishop Ignatius on the \u201cbodies\u201d of angels than by his actually holding the teaching ascribed to him by Bishop Theophan)\u2014is indeed \u201cminor.\u201d With regard to the points of the teaching on life after death set forth in The Soul After Death (since I did not defend or even mention Bishop Ignatius\u2019 supposed teaching that souls and angels are only bodies), their points of agreement are close to complete. The agreement of their teaching on life after death is all the more striking when one compares it with the views of the rationalistic critics of the West who, even up to our day, deny not only the reality of the toll-houses but also the whole after-death reality which Bishops Theophan and Ignatius described in virtually identical terms, the efficacy of prayers for the dead, and so forth. Against such false views the united witness of Bishops Theophan and Ignatius to the Orthodox teaching handed down from antiquity is indeed impressive.<\/p>\n<p>I should be very interested in hearing further of your research on Bishop Theophan, for whom, as I have said, I have the greatest respect. Will you be publishing an article or book on him, or any translations of his works? I myself have translated the first part of The Path to Salvation, which is now appearing serially in the newspaper Orthodox America.<\/p>\n<p>With love in Christ,<br \/>\nUnworthy Hieromonk Seraphim<br \/>\nHieromonk Seraphim<\/p>\n<p>P.s. I do not know how \u201copen\u201d your letter to me was, or to whom it was sent. I am sending copies of my reply only to a few people who are closely interested in this subject.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>St. Herman of Alaska Brotherhood Platina, California 96076 Mrs. Irina Hay Russian Research Center Harvard University 1737 Cambridge, Mass. 02138 Dear Mrs. Hay, May the blessing of the Lord be with you! Thank you for your \u201copen letter\u201d of November 3 and your personal letter of November 4. 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